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HER Number:MDV13231
Name:Unlikely tinners' caches within enclosure north of Piles Copse

Summary

Two additional ruined structures were located within the settlement in 1977 by the Ordnance Survey, and recorded as a tinners' caches (of a group of five features). These two examples were not located by Butler (1993) and was not found during 2018 survey; thought to be unlikely features. (Record retained for clarity).

Location

Grid Reference:SX 644 626
Map Sheet:SX66SW
Admin AreaDartmoor National Park
Civil ParishHarford
DistrictSouth Hams
Ecclesiastical ParishHARFORD

Protected Status

Other References/Statuses

  • National Monuments Record: SX66SW86
  • Old DCC SMR Ref: SX66SW/128/2
  • Old SAM County Ref: 813
  • Old SAM Ref: 10521
  • Pastscape: 442421

Monument Type(s) and Dates

  • TINNERS CACHE? (Post Medieval - 1540 AD to 1750 AD (Between))

Full description

Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division, 1977, SX66SW86, B and C (Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division Card). SDV147916.

(20/12/1977) Two of five structures (see related records), which appear to be tinners' caches, built within a prehistoric enclosed settlement (Monument HOB UID 442312). They may be associated with the extensive tin streaming of Medieval and later date which is visible alongside the River Erme, hereabouts.
B: SX 64406264. A massive leaning slab protruding from clitter is piled about with a 0.4m high wall of small stones. It would form a crude shelter of 2.0m internal diameter.
C: SX 64426263. A three-sided structure of orthostatic slabs, the sides 2.0m by 1.0m and 1.0m high.
Only feature 'A' was surveyed on MSD at 10 000, the scale precluding portrayal of the others. Found during field investigation.

Hankin, C. F., 1977-1979, Harford Parish Checklist (Worksheet). SDV149931.

Site visited on 10th April 1980). A site of a tinner's cache.

Newman, P., 2018, Erme Valley Survey data (GIS and Excel spreadsheet) (Cartographic). SDV361913.

Not found at this location.

Richards, A. F., 2020, Note on tinners' caches within MDV4242 (Personal Comment). SDV363552.

(07/02/2020) Neither of these cache features recorded by the Ordnance Survey has been confirmed since 1977. The grid references provided are likely to be roughly 35-40m south-east of the original location of the features recorded, based on the accurate locations of the other features recorded at the same time (MDV13230, 13232, 13233), which have been plotted and confirmed during the 2018 survey. However, even taking this into account, no such features were recorded that could be related to these records. Assumed to be inaccurate/natural features, the record has been retained for clarity.

Sources / Further Reading

SDV147916Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division Card: Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division. 1977. SX66SW86. Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division Card. Unknown. B and C. [Mapped feature: #124089 See comment in record, 07/02/2020, ]
SDV149931Worksheet: Hankin, C. F.. 1977-1979. Harford Parish Checklist. Parish Checklist. Digital.
SDV361913Cartographic: Newman, P.. 2018. Erme Valley Survey data (GIS and Excel spreadsheet). GIS ShapeFile. Digital.

Associated Monuments

MDV13232Related to: Possible tinners' cache built into the wall of enclosure north of Piles Copse (Monument)
MDV13233Related to: Possible tinners' cache built into the wall of enclosure north of Piles Copse (Monument)

Associated Finds: none recorded

Associated Events

  • EDV8082 - Survey of the Upper Erme Valley

Date Last Edited:Feb 7 2020 12:05PM