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HER Number:MDV13232
Name:Possible tinners' cache built into the wall of enclosure north of Piles Copse

Summary

One of two similar, small, ruined circular structures built into the outer wall of a prehistoric enclosure the eastern lower slopes of the River Erme, 300 metres north of Piles Copse. The sites have previously been recorded as tinners’ caches, though of this there is no certainty. The overall outer diameter of the approximately circular stony mound is 3.7 metres, but the interior walls form a rectangle of approximately 1.5 metres by 1.3 metres. These structures appear to be post-prehistoric intrusions, but their date and purpose is unknown. This area of the Erme Valley is affected by a dense covering of bracken in the summer months, totally obscuring these remains.

Location

Grid Reference:SX 644 626
Map Sheet:SX66SW
Admin AreaDartmoor National Park
Civil ParishHarford
DistrictSouth Hams
Ecclesiastical ParishHARFORD

Protected Status

Other References/Statuses

  • National Monuments Record: SX66SW86
  • Old DCC SMR Ref: SX66SW/128
  • Old DCC SMR Ref: SX66SW/128/3
  • Old SAM County Ref: 813
  • Old SAM County Ref: 81310521
  • Old SAM Ref: 10521
  • Pastscape: 442421

Monument Type(s) and Dates

  • TINNERS CACHE? (Constructed, Early Medieval to Post Medieval - 1066 AD to 1750 AD? (Between))

Full description

Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division, 1977, SX66SW86, E (Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division Card). SDV147916.

(20/12/1977) One of five structures (see related records), which appear to be tinners' caches, built within a prehistoric enclosed settlement (Monument HOB UID 442312). They may be associated with the extensive tin streaming of Medieval and later date which is visible alongside the River Erme, hereabouts.
E: SX 64456261. In a similar situation (to D?) and 0.4m deep, but circular and 2.0m in diameter.
Only feature 'A' was surveyed on MSD at 10 000, the scale precluding portrayal of the others. Found during field investigation.

Hankin, C. F., 1977-1979, Harford Parish Checklist (Worksheet). SDV149931.

Site visited on 8th May 1979. Set into the rocky west facing hillside about 75 metres east of the River Erme, and built into the east wall of a prehistoric enclosure. Large slabs of granite about 1 metre high form an open three-sided area 1.50 metres wide, 2 metres deep, cut back into the hillside with naturally-placed rocks above. The open side faces south-east. There is no roof. The tumble of rocks in and around the enclosure on its east side appear to have been adapted, presumably by tinners, for the construction of small 'caches', either for shelter or perhaps for storing belongings. Several sites show probable remains of such adaptations.

Hankin, C. F., 1977-1979, Harford Parish Checklist (Worksheet). SDV149931.

(05/06/1979) Could not be located.

Robinson, R., 1986, List of Field Monument Warden Visits 1986 (Un-published). SDV345664.

Site visited on 19th December 1986.

Newman, P., 2018, Erme Valley Survey data (GIS and Excel spreadsheet) (Cartographic). SDV361913.

Grid reference should be SX 64426 62638. Feature shown on GIS survey layer.

Newman, P., 2018, The Upper Erme Valley, Dartmoor National Park, Devon: An Archaeological Survey, Appendix 1 (Report - Survey). SDV362921.

One of two similar, small, ruined circular structures built into the outer wall of a prehistoric enclosure the eastern lower slopes of the River Erme, 300 metres north of Piles Copse. The sites have previously been recorded as tinners’ caches, though of this there is no certainty. The overall outer diameter of the approximately circular stony mound is 3.7 metres, but the interior walls form a rectangle of approximately 1.5 metres by 1.3 metres. These structures appear to be post-prehistoric intrusions, but their date and purpose is unknown. This area of the Erme Valley is affected by a dense covering of bracken in the summer months, totally obscuring these remains.

Sources / Further Reading

SDV147916Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division Card: Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division. 1977. SX66SW86. Ordnance Survey Archaeology Division Card. Unknown. E.
SDV149931Worksheet: Hankin, C. F.. 1977-1979. Harford Parish Checklist. Parish Checklist. Digital.
SDV345664Un-published: Robinson, R.. 1986. List of Field Monument Warden Visits 1986. Lists of Field Monument Warden Visits. Printout.
SDV361913Cartographic: Newman, P.. 2018. Erme Valley Survey data (GIS and Excel spreadsheet). GIS ShapeFile. Digital. [Mapped feature: #123987 ]

Associated Monuments

MDV13230Related to: Beehive hut in enclosure north of Piles Copse, Harford (Monument)
MDV123440Related to: Pair of huts associated with a prehistoric enclosure to the south, Harford (Monument)
MDV13233Related to: Possible tinners' cache built into the wall of enclosure north of Piles Copse (Monument)
MDV4252Related to: Settlement of prehistoric enclosures and hut circles to the north of Piles Copse, Harford (Monument)
MDV19977Related to: Tinners' cache near prehistoric settlement north of Piles Copse (Monument)
MDV13231Related to: Unlikely tinners' caches within enclosure north of Piles Copse (Monument)

Associated Finds: none recorded

Associated Events

  • EDV8082 - Survey of the Upper Erme Valley

Date Last Edited:Feb 7 2020 11:55AM